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		<title>By: Building native iPhone Apps with Flash: just what we didn&#8217;t need</title>
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		<dc:creator>Building native iPhone Apps with Flash: just what we didn&#8217;t need</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 10.1. This, without any changes to the Flash Applications themselves. Perhaps Adobe took note of Joa Ebert&#8217;s Leaving the Sandbox presentation at Flash on the Beach this year when he criticized the Adobe compiler and it&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 10.1. This, without any changes to the Flash Applications themselves. Perhaps Adobe took note of Joa Ebert&#8217;s Leaving the Sandbox presentation at Flash on the Beach this year when he criticized the Adobe compiler and it&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Das war FOTB 2009 » GELB der Powerflasher Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Das war FOTB 2009 » GELB der Powerflasher Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Parker: FOTB 2009 Round Up (EN) Devon Wolfgang: Some Windchimes and more from FOTB (EN) Joa Ebert: After the sandbox (DE) Sascha Wolter: Zur&#252;ck aus Brighton (DE) Leerraum: FOTB (EN) Bit-101: Flash on the Beach [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://blog.joa-ebert.com/2009/09/28/after-the-sandbox/comment-page-1/#comment-176384</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joa,
I myself missed your talk at this year&#039;s FOTB (I was late and the room was jam-packed so they didn&#039;t let us in - I would have been happy to sit on the floor to attend). I saw your session last year at FOTB &#039;08 and I&#039;m an avid follower of all the work posted on this blog.

I totally agree with &quot;Peter Strømberg&quot; above about the &quot;Nobel prize&quot; for open-source Flash Development and you&#039;d have my vote for the great work you&#039;re doing with &quot;Apparat&quot; as well as your other tools and your willingness to explain and demystify some complex topics for the Flash community :).

BTW, anyone else reading this post interested in such an award? Well it doesn&#039;t have to be on a grand scale as a &quot;Nobel&quot; prize, but an award is needed. I&#039;m willing to help bring together sponsors for such an award through my network.

I know we have Adobe MAX awards, FWA, and other somewhat web dev related awards such as thenetawards. But we as an open community have no means to reward (apart for giving them kudos at international events) these hard working individuals behind such great open-source toolkits and projects such as Joa Ebert&#039;s dev tools; Papervision3D, Away3D, Asual/Rostislav&#039;s SWFAdress, SWFObject, frameworks such as Swiz, PureMVC, Mate (add more Flash-related tools you like here...) 

I for one know that without these open-source tools and these individuals&#039; willingness to share their knowledge with the community, I wouldn&#039;t be as productive in my line of work. 

A trend that I&#039;m seeing and that I&#039;ve shared on many panels about web development with the Adobe Flash technology, is the fact that development with the Adobe Flash is becoming ever more complex - it can&#039;t be helped, it&#039;s just a natural progression. The question is what&#039;s been done about this?!

One way the community is tackling this is that we have loads of great speakers (&quot;luminaries&quot; I call them) that we look forward to see every year at events such as the FOTB, FITC et al. These speakers are spending a lot of their time understanding and researching on some hard and advanced topics and then &quot;demystify&quot; these topics to the rest of the community. Of course, names such as yourself Joa, Grant Skinner, Mario Klingemann, Ralph Hawert, Andre Michelle, Aral Balkan and many many more (forgive me if I missed your name, if you feel left out) have been doing this and are still actively doing this.

Sorry for the long post. Once again, thanks Joa (and the rest of the community) for sharing your knowledge - I can&#039;t wait for FOTB &#039;10!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joa,<br />
I myself missed your talk at this year&#8217;s FOTB (I was late and the room was jam-packed so they didn&#8217;t let us in &#8211; I would have been happy to sit on the floor to attend). I saw your session last year at FOTB &#8217;08 and I&#8217;m an avid follower of all the work posted on this blog.</p>
<p>I totally agree with &#8220;Peter Strømberg&#8221; above about the &#8220;Nobel prize&#8221; for open-source Flash Development and you&#8217;d have my vote for the great work you&#8217;re doing with &#8220;Apparat&#8221; as well as your other tools and your willingness to explain and demystify some complex topics for the Flash community :).</p>
<p>BTW, anyone else reading this post interested in such an award? Well it doesn&#8217;t have to be on a grand scale as a &#8220;Nobel&#8221; prize, but an award is needed. I&#8217;m willing to help bring together sponsors for such an award through my network.</p>
<p>I know we have Adobe MAX awards, FWA, and other somewhat web dev related awards such as thenetawards. But we as an open community have no means to reward (apart for giving them kudos at international events) these hard working individuals behind such great open-source toolkits and projects such as Joa Ebert&#8217;s dev tools; Papervision3D, Away3D, Asual/Rostislav&#8217;s SWFAdress, SWFObject, frameworks such as Swiz, PureMVC, Mate (add more Flash-related tools you like here&#8230;) </p>
<p>I for one know that without these open-source tools and these individuals&#8217; willingness to share their knowledge with the community, I wouldn&#8217;t be as productive in my line of work. </p>
<p>A trend that I&#8217;m seeing and that I&#8217;ve shared on many panels about web development with the Adobe Flash technology, is the fact that development with the Adobe Flash is becoming ever more complex &#8211; it can&#8217;t be helped, it&#8217;s just a natural progression. The question is what&#8217;s been done about this?!</p>
<p>One way the community is tackling this is that we have loads of great speakers (&#8220;luminaries&#8221; I call them) that we look forward to see every year at events such as the FOTB, FITC et al. These speakers are spending a lot of their time understanding and researching on some hard and advanced topics and then &#8220;demystify&#8221; these topics to the rest of the community. Of course, names such as yourself Joa, Grant Skinner, Mario Klingemann, Ralph Hawert, Andre Michelle, Aral Balkan and many many more (forgive me if I missed your name, if you feel left out) have been doing this and are still actively doing this.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long post. Once again, thanks Joa (and the rest of the community) for sharing your knowledge &#8211; I can&#8217;t wait for FOTB &#8217;10!</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Volkov</title>
		<link>http://blog.joa-ebert.com/2009/09/28/after-the-sandbox/comment-page-1/#comment-176358</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Volkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternativa team with you, man! :)
You&#039;re great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternativa team with you, man! :)<br />
You&#8217;re great!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas Cannasse</title>
		<link>http://blog.joa-ebert.com/2009/09/28/after-the-sandbox/comment-page-1/#comment-176341</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Cannasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Passion about programming and commitment to work on it and make something out of nothing deserve respect and applauses. I would have like to make it for your presentation, but congratulations anyway ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passion about programming and commitment to work on it and make something out of nothing deserve respect and applauses. I would have like to make it for your presentation, but congratulations anyway ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Strømberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.joa-ebert.com/2009/09/28/after-the-sandbox/comment-page-1/#comment-176339</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Strømberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When they make a Nobel prize for Flash Development, you&#039;ll get my vote :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they make a Nobel prize for Flash Development, you&#8217;ll get my vote :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention After The Sandbox at blog.joa-ebert.com – Blog of Joa Ebert -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention After The Sandbox at blog.joa-ebert.com – Blog of Joa Ebert -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mark Griffin. Mark Griffin said: RT @joa: &quot;After the Sandbox&quot;, compiling C# and Java to SWF http://bit.ly/3hJ4to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made history! Really your talk was the most discussed of the whole conference and I never experienced reactions like this at any conference before. Thanks for kicking Adobe`s ass. 
I wish they would just give you a huge pay check for what you`ve already done ;-)
Looking forward for more awesomeness from you!
Benz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made history! Really your talk was the most discussed of the whole conference and I never experienced reactions like this at any conference before. Thanks for kicking Adobe`s ass.<br />
I wish they would just give you a huge pay check for what you`ve already done ;-)<br />
Looking forward for more awesomeness from you!<br />
Benz</p>
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